Wildwood Tracking website

Techniques
Tracks & Sign
Mammals
Birds
Others
Sign tracking
Compressions
Measurements
Aging
Gaits
Limb/Eye Dominance
Skulls
Awareness
Quizzes
Teams
Search & Rescue
Way of the Scout
Algonquin Winter
   Tracking
Stories
Humour
Booklist
Contributors
Sitemap
About this site
Use of material
Privacy Policy
HomeLimb/Eye Dominance

Limb Dominance discussion

Page 5

 

Del

Understand that our walk is very efficient. The ability to pendulum swing each leg ... balancing on the other leg ... allows for a minimal amount of energy spent at toe push off to assure forward momentum for the swing leg to 'step' forward. The energy (other muscle activities) added to the walk (outside of the toe push) will dictate balance (due to terrain/body position), gait/pace (speed and stopping), and navigation (turning). The muscles that we call on can be from our back and gluts on down each leg.

The tightening or the dominance of muscles (dominant leg?) will effect the foot placement and/or the toe push.

With the ground being level and clear of debris ... the legs/feet left on their own ... the pendulum will be true with each step. Each RL step will be the same as the next RL step and conversely the LR step will be the same as the next LR step. Therefore each total stride (either LRL or RLR) will be equal to each other. Giving us NO TURN.

Still wondering. Check out this URL http://www.uni-essen.de/~qpd800/ANIMP1.GIF the toe push off is only slightly more energy than the heel strike.
To see a Quicktime Movie of a human walk ... http://www.univie.ac.at/cga/simulation.mov or http://www.univie.ac.at/cga/skeleton.mov

OR a .MPG ... http://www.univie.ac.at/cga/7link.mpg

The dominant limb 'curve' must be coming from a muscle source that is placing our foot off-line a little with each step. Might it show in the 'pitch'?

I know that you all don't carry protractors ... but get one and see if there isn't a greater pitch on your dominant limb. It may be as small as 1/2 to 1 degree, but this would be enough to curve your LOT over the length of a football field.


Glen Monaghan

I believe (unless someone can provide more information  outside of TB's Books or classes) that direction of travel  (even blindfolded) is a complex assortment of balance  control which is dictated by the bodies COG (center of  gravity), terrain features, routes of easy travel, footwear,  lower body aches/pains/ailments, and mental maps that we use  when we travel... corrected by visual "dead reckoning"  toward landmarks or intentional steering (twisted turns)  around obstacles
 
That's easy enough to agree with, Del, although you haven't begun to include all the likely factors. Jeez, if anyone is telling you that virtually anything a living body does is "simple" or unidimensional, you know something's wrong...

It is not controlled by a "dominant" leg  even over a long haul, the farther your subject travels the  more variables are introduced that are not dominant limb  related. Lost people do not always travel in circles until  they die, this has been proven by record keeping of actual  cases. . The concept that people will always turn to a  dominate side is fallacy and has led to many searches for  these lost people to be driven in the wrong direction. This  is what I have seen to be true.

Who's going around saying that lost people "always" travel in circles, or "always" turn to the dominant side? Hang along any path or street and watch people walking around trashcans, bushes, other people, etc., and (in my experience) you will see that a person will favor circumnavigating to one side or the other. That is, a person passing to the right of the first obstacle will typically, but not always, pass to the  right of others. I've not seen people claiming "always" in this context.


Steve Baygents

Animals and people almost always circle. Unless there are geologic features to guide them in a particular direction. I don't hunt anymore but in the distant past I hunted extensively with dogs. Animals almost uniformly circle back to the point where they were first jumped by the dogs. The larger the animal the larger the circle. (Usually). Very rarely an animal will beeline out of the area.  Don't know the reason animals do this? Just know that they do!


As for humans:
I can only speak from personal experience.  While hunting in an area of several square miles of flooded timber in Arkansas (no guiding geologic features), I misplaced my boat.  Fortunately I came across another person and asked directions. He sent me on my way and it began snowing making directions even more difficult. No compass of course. I walked for about an hour and decided he had given me wrong directions. But thank goodness there was another person just ahead. When I got up to the person I discovered, much to my embarrassment, that it was the same person who had previously given me directions. I had made a big circle!


Del

First I'll say that I am not a student of Biomechanics, my interest in you world is peripheral in nature. I am a volunteer in a Search and Rescue group that specializes in tracking humans.

Within another List, that I receive, there has been many heated discussions about limb dominance and how it will relate to the navigation of a traveling human.

Questions for this List:
Is limb dominance the same as 'footedness'?
Is there a way to test for a limb dominance?
How will limb dominance manifest itself in the gait?
If a human is blindfolded and set on a course ... the turns that s/he takes during the course ... are they caused by a difference in step length? unequal stride lengths? limb strength? trunk twist? maintaining balance?
How would you rate the factors that effect navigation? step length difference? heel strike placement? foot pitch? toe push off? others?

Thanks for indulging me on these questions.
If this is not appropriate list feel free to Email me directly.


Michael McPartland, Ph D.

You may also want to consider issues related mechanisms inside our head  which help us maintain balance, that is as you probably know, the vestibular system.

Effects of simple maladies such as head colds to evolved problems such as hypo/hyper-vestibulopathies can literally steer us in directions other than straight ahead.


Rachel Brady

My experience has been that  "footedness" was determined by placing a ball in front of your subject and  asking him to kick during three separate trials. Observe which foot he  uses the majority of the time. Usually it will be the same foot each time.  You can also ask your subject to stand straight up, and then lean forward  until he begins to fall. He will stop himself from falling by placing a  foot/leg in front. Observe which leg he uses the majority of the time.

One way that limb dominance in gait (in my limited knowledge) would  manifest itself would be which foot an individual uses to begin walking  from a stop. I once observed a gait study involving the elderly, and  several of the men were ex-military. I believe it was the left foot that  they used for their first step. After the study we talked with them about  it and they told us that in the military, you always begin marching on the  left foot. (I might have this backwards.) Anyway, I found it  interesting  that their dominance was formed from old military habit.

Your ideas about what causes an individual to turn during blindfolded gait  are interesting. During my thesis research, I observed that many  blindfolded subjects had difficulty walking a straight path of only 10 or  15 feet. When I provided them with auditory cues, like talking to them,  they were able to do much better about walking a straight line.


Bruce Etnyre, Ph. D., P.T

 I have studied limb dominance and hemispheric specialization for a number of years and was interested by your questions. I can't tell you much about anything other than the first two. Limb dominance is not always the same as footedness, but usually right-handers have dominance on their right side (including eye and ear preference). Left-handers much more frequently have mixed dominance  of foot, eye and ear. There are some batteries of assessments for limb dominance which I have seen, but I don't have references for them. Some include trick questions for people being interviewed who want to deceive the surveyor because of the stigma some cultures put on being left-handed.  For example, asking which hand they hold the deck in when they deal cards. Someone who answers right hand to all the other questions and answers right hand to that one is probably not answering honestly.

We have been conducting studies recently on sit-to-stand movement and have seen some foot preferences. We came up with a screening device to determine footedness from other batteries of tests I've seen. We ask the participants three questions:
Which foot do you use to kick a ball?
If you had to step up on this chair, which foot would you use?
If you had to hold a pen with your toes to write, which foot would you use?

At least two out of three is what we use to indicate foot preference.


Owen Evans, PhD

< >>Questions for this List:
>Is limb dominance the same as 'footedness'?
Not necessarily, can be specific to particular activities.

>Is there a way to test for a limb dominance?
Footedness can be assessed simply by asking the subject to begin hopping.  Several trials show a pattern.


Dr Gabor Barton MD

I try to answer some of your questions.
>Is there a way to test for a limb dominance?

If you stand in front of a step then you usually use your dominant leg to step on. (I can't remember percentages, for more scientific answers do a search on Medline.)
>If a human is blindfolded and set on a course ... the turns that s/he takes during the course ... are they caused by a difference in step  length? unequal stride lengths? limb strength? trunk twist? maintaining balance?

One can walk in a straight line both with equal and with unequal step length. Unequal stride length will result in turning. 

A quotation from the CGA web-site's Teach-In section (by Dr. Chris Kirtley):

--------
•"the stride length is the distance between two successive placements of the same foot. It consists of two step lengths, left and right, each of which is the distance by which the named foot moves forward in front of the other one. In  pathological gait, it is perfectly possible for the two step lengths to be different. If the left foot is moved forward to take a step, and the right one is brought up beside it, rather than in front of it, the right step length will be zero....However, the stride length measured between successive positions of the left foot must always be the same as that measured from the right foot, unless the subject is walking around a curve." (Mike Whittle, Gait Analysis)

•"stride length is the horizontal distance covered along the plane of progression during one stride; it is the distance covered from IC to IC of the same foot... equal to the sum of the two step lengths and will be equal for left and right limbs if the person is walking in a straight line, even in the presence of marked assymetry... Specific step lengths for right and left side must be measured within the same stride. The term can also be used to specify an average step length over many strides." (David Winter, The Biomechanics & Motor Control of Human Gait)
--------
See the CGA list's archives at http://guardian.curtin.edu.au/cga/ for more details.


Margit Meier

I would say that there is a preference for certain tasks (ex. high jumping, kicking, and due to this preference this limb might get dominant in athletes) but in daily living there is no dominance, as this would be far too dangerous. Turning during normal walking is for me a daily activity and I do not think that there is any real dominance as for upper limbs. Unfortunately I do not have some literature present, however, I know, that J.J.Collins has written about limb dominance/ preferences. Should you need further information, let me know and I will try to find these articles for you.


Carole J. Zebas, P.E.D.

We presented a paper at the International Society of Biomechanics in Sports in 1993 on "What is leg dominance?" Basically what we found is that leg dominance is related to the type of skill performed. If you are right-handed and perform a weight bearing skill such as a basketball layup, you would use your left leg as the weigh bearing leg. If you are right-handed and perform a manipulative skill such as kicking a soccer ball, you would use your right leg. An article by Chapman, J.P.; Cahpman, L. J.; and Allen, J.J. (1986) in Neuropsychologia 25(3):579-584 addresses the issue of measuring foot preference. Our article appears as follows:
Spry, S., Zebas, C.J., and Visser, M.F. (1993). What is leg dominance? BIOMECHANICS IN SPORTS XI. J. Hamill, T. R. Derrick, & E. H. Elliott (Eds.) University of Massachusetts, Amherst, MA.


David Hynd

The following papers may be of some use...
Nigorikawa, T.;    A preliminary study of walking bias phenomenon which is related to ring-wandering.
Ann. Phsiol. Anthrop. 1988; 7: 99-106

In the present study several experiments of walking bias were performed in order to investigate the fundamental nature of ring-wandering and to examine the relationships between various physical dominant factors and the
direction of walking bias. Subjects were 20 to 29 male and female college students, 18 to 21 years of age.
The conclusions of the present study were summarized as follows: 1) The repeatability of one's direction of bias was rather high if the experimental conditions were the same for all walkings. 2) Assuming that 5 m from the center line is the limit of acceptable deviation, the distance one can keep correct direction to the target while blindfolded would be roughly 40 m. 3) The relationships between walking speed and amount of walking bias were as follows: for the whole group, the subjects who walked unconsciously with high speed showed reletively smaller bias; and with respect to an
individual subject when he walked with consciously high speed, he tended to register smaller walking bias than he had registered previously in walking unconsciously. 4) There were no significant relationships between one's direction of
walking bias and his various physical dominant factors.
--------------------------------------------------------

Uetake, T. ;  Can we really walk straight? Am. J. Phys. Anthropol. 1992; 89: 19-27

Twenty healthy men were asked to walk as straight as possible to a target 60 m away at normal speed. A series of footprints was recorded for each subject by having him wear socks soaked with red ink and walk on white paper fixed flat to the floor. Fourier analysis was applied to determine whether the subjects were able to walk straight, and the results revealed that all walked in a sinuous line rather than a straight line. Periodicity and amplitude of the meandering differed from subject to subject. These facts suggest that none of us can walk in a strictly straight line; rather we meander, primarily due to a slight structural or functional imbalance of our limbs, which produces a gait asymmetry, and secondarily due to feedback from our sense of sight, which acts to correct the shifted walking course.

David Hynd, Clinical Scientist, Gait Laboratory, Roehampton Rehab. Center, Queen Mary's University Hospital, Roehampton Lane, London, SW15 5PN

 

Previous      Next